11-22-2022, 08:58 PM
Mercifully we are at the end.
2022 BYU vs. Stanford Predictions Thread
11-23-2022, 03:56 PM
Against Utah, Stanford faced one of its former players in Gabe Reid. This weekend, Houston Heimuli returns to the Farm. When he joined the Stanford football program, Houston was hyped as a true power runner who had both speed and bulk to punish opposing defenses. But oddly, his most memorable plays at Stanford were as a receiver, and his only TD as a Cardinal came on a 1 yard pass reception in the 2018 season. Otherwise, he never quite achieved the expected breakthrough as a power running back. At BYU, his 2022 season has been even more modest: though he is listed as a fullback on the roster, he has seen most action on defense and has only a single tackle chalked up to his credit in the stats.
But Houston DID graduate from Stanford and probably transferred to be closer to his family and to play for his dad's old team (Lakei Heimuli played fullback for BYU's 1984 national championship team and then played a season for the Chicago Bears in 1987). The transfer to BYU, however, did not open up new vistas for Houston's collegiate football career, and he will probably be looking for a normal day job after the 2022 football season.
But Houston DID graduate from Stanford and probably transferred to be closer to his family and to play for his dad's old team (Lakei Heimuli played fullback for BYU's 1984 national championship team and then played a season for the Chicago Bears in 1987). The transfer to BYU, however, did not open up new vistas for Houston's collegiate football career, and he will probably be looking for a normal day job after the 2022 football season.
Against Utah, Stanford faced one of its former players in Gabe Reid. This weekend, Houston Heimuli returns to the Farm. When he joined the Stanford football program, Houston was hyped as a true power runner who had both speed and bulk to punish opposing defenses. But oddly, his most memorable plays at Stanford were as a receiver, and his only TD as a Cardinal came on a 1 yard pass reception in the 2018 season. Otherwise, he never quite achieved the expected breakthrough as a power running back. At BYU, his 2022 season has been even more modest: though he is listed as a fullback on the roster, he has seen most action on defense and has only a single tackle chalked up to his credit in the stats.
But Houston DID graduate from Stanford and probably transferred to be closer to his family and to play for his dad's old team (Lakei Heimuli played fullback for BYU's 1984 national championship team and then played a season for the Chicago Bears in 1987). The transfer to BYU, however, did not open up new vistas for Houston's collegiate football career, and he will probably be looking for a normal day job after the 2022 football season.
But Houston DID graduate from Stanford and probably transferred to be closer to his family and to play for his dad's old team (Lakei Heimuli played fullback for BYU's 1984 national championship team and then played a season for the Chicago Bears in 1987). The transfer to BYU, however, did not open up new vistas for Houston's collegiate football career, and he will probably be looking for a normal day job after the 2022 football season.
11-23-2022, 04:15 PM
(11-23-2022, 03:56 PM)Austroturf Wrote: Against Utah, Stanford faced one of its former players in Gabe Reid. This weekend, Houston Heimuli returns to the Farm. When he joined the Stanford football program, Houston was hyped as a true power runner who had both speed and bulk to punish opposing defenses. But oddly, his most memorable plays at Stanford were as a receiver, and his only TD as a Cardinal came on a 1 yard pass reception in the 2018 season. Otherwise, he never quite achieved the expected breakthrough as a power running back.He was recruited as a fullback. And played fullback.
(11-23-2022, 03:56 PM)Austroturf Wrote: At BYU, his 2022 season has been even more modest: though he is listed as a fullback on the roster, he has seen most action on defense and has only a single tackle chalked up to his credit in the stats.BYU's offensive system does not use a fullback. He has played no defense. His tackle was on special teams.
(11-23-2022, 03:56 PM)Austroturf Wrote: Against Utah, Stanford faced one of its former players in Gabe Reid. This weekend, Houston Heimuli returns to the Farm. When he joined the Stanford football program, Houston was hyped as a true power runner who had both speed and bulk to punish opposing defenses. But oddly, his most memorable plays at Stanford were as a receiver, and his only TD as a Cardinal came on a 1 yard pass reception in the 2018 season. Otherwise, he never quite achieved the expected breakthrough as a power running back.He was recruited as a fullback. And played fullback.
(11-23-2022, 03:56 PM)Austroturf Wrote: At BYU, his 2022 season has been even more modest: though he is listed as a fullback on the roster, he has seen most action on defense and has only a single tackle chalked up to his credit in the stats.BYU's offensive system does not use a fullback. He has played no defense. His tackle was on special teams.
11-23-2022, 05:07 PM
(11-23-2022, 04:15 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(11-23-2022, 03:56 PM)Austroturf Wrote: Against Utah, Stanford faced one of its former players in Gabe Reid. This weekend, Houston Heimuli returns to the Farm. When he joined the Stanford football program, Houston was hyped as a true power runner who had both speed and bulk to punish opposing defenses. But oddly, his most memorable plays at Stanford were as a receiver, and his only TD as a Cardinal came on a 1 yard pass reception in the 2018 season. Otherwise, he never quite achieved the expected breakthrough as a power running back.He was recruited as a fullback. And played fullback.
(11-23-2022, 03:56 PM)Austroturf Wrote: At BYU, his 2022 season has been even more modest: though he is listed as a fullback on the roster, he has seen most action on defense and has only a single tackle chalked up to his credit in the stats.BYU's offensive system does not use a fullback. He has played no defense. His tackle was on special teams.
Fullbacks also catch passes. He caught several, and one of them was for a TD.
Yes, it was a special teams play, but it is listed under defensive stats (i.e., a tackle). He has seen action in most of BYU's games this year, but only on special teams, and there's that one tackle to his credit. Still, he is listed in the roster as a FB. Go figure.
(11-23-2022, 04:15 PM)SamuelMcF Wrote:(11-23-2022, 03:56 PM)Austroturf Wrote: Against Utah, Stanford faced one of its former players in Gabe Reid. This weekend, Houston Heimuli returns to the Farm. When he joined the Stanford football program, Houston was hyped as a true power runner who had both speed and bulk to punish opposing defenses. But oddly, his most memorable plays at Stanford were as a receiver, and his only TD as a Cardinal came on a 1 yard pass reception in the 2018 season. Otherwise, he never quite achieved the expected breakthrough as a power running back.He was recruited as a fullback. And played fullback.
(11-23-2022, 03:56 PM)Austroturf Wrote: At BYU, his 2022 season has been even more modest: though he is listed as a fullback on the roster, he has seen most action on defense and has only a single tackle chalked up to his credit in the stats.BYU's offensive system does not use a fullback. He has played no defense. His tackle was on special teams.
Fullbacks also catch passes. He caught several, and one of them was for a TD.
Yes, it was a special teams play, but it is listed under defensive stats (i.e., a tackle). He has seen action in most of BYU's games this year, but only on special teams, and there's that one tackle to his credit. Still, he is listed in the roster as a FB. Go figure.
11-24-2022, 09:14 AM
The most meaningless, unanticipated, and ignorable football game Stanford has prepared for in a long long time. I don't expect to see that "mid-season" "snake in the grass" crisp execution promised by Shaw.
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
11-24-2022, 01:54 PM
(11-24-2022, 09:14 AM)martyup Wrote: The most meaningless, unanticipated, and ignorable football game Stanford has prepared for in a long long time. I don't expect to see that "mid-season" "snake in the grass" crisp execution promised by Shaw.
Agree. Actually, he alluded to being a "tiger in the weeds". Snake, tiger. Weeds, grass. Guess it doesn't matter at this point.
https://twitter.com/johncanzanobft/statu...4373775360
(11-24-2022, 09:14 AM)martyup Wrote: The most meaningless, unanticipated, and ignorable football game Stanford has prepared for in a long long time. I don't expect to see that "mid-season" "snake in the grass" crisp execution promised by Shaw.
Agree. Actually, he alluded to being a "tiger in the weeds". Snake, tiger. Weeds, grass. Guess it doesn't matter at this point.
https://twitter.com/johncanzanobft/statu...4373775360
11-24-2022, 11:07 PM
(11-24-2022, 09:26 PM)ADPinWDC Wrote: Do we have a prediction line for ATTENDANCE?
Below 15,000?
Easily. Unless BYU travels well. They might be taking advantage of the free ticket offer. https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2022/10...home-games
(11-24-2022, 09:26 PM)ADPinWDC Wrote: Do we have a prediction line for ATTENDANCE?
Below 15,000?
Easily. Unless BYU travels well. They might be taking advantage of the free ticket offer. https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2022/10...home-games
11-24-2022, 11:09 PM
(11-24-2022, 09:26 PM)ADPinWDC Wrote: Do we have a prediction line for ATTENDANCE?
Below 15,000?
Actual butts in seats? I'd guess lower, regardless of whatever is reported. Maybe 10K, but that would be mostly BYU fans. It's a meaningless game, in the cold, at a late start time that turns off older people (like my dad) and people coming from further away. Our team's motivation level figures to be at an all-time low. Another beating is likely.
The only reason to attend? Appreciation for the seniors. We have some 4th- and 5th-year guys that put in a ton of work and deserved better outcomes. Unfortunately, many of them aren't healthy enough to play.
As for me, I'll be there anyway, mostly out of habit. (And because I have the season tix and live nearby.)
(11-24-2022, 09:26 PM)ADPinWDC Wrote: Do we have a prediction line for ATTENDANCE?
Below 15,000?
Actual butts in seats? I'd guess lower, regardless of whatever is reported. Maybe 10K, but that would be mostly BYU fans. It's a meaningless game, in the cold, at a late start time that turns off older people (like my dad) and people coming from further away. Our team's motivation level figures to be at an all-time low. Another beating is likely.
The only reason to attend? Appreciation for the seniors. We have some 4th- and 5th-year guys that put in a ton of work and deserved better outcomes. Unfortunately, many of them aren't healthy enough to play.
As for me, I'll be there anyway, mostly out of habit. (And because I have the season tix and live nearby.)
11-25-2022, 07:25 AM
Here's a bit more on Houston Heimuli. Apparently, this transfer year did not meet his expectations.
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/byu-cougar...-heimulis/
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/byu-cougar...-heimulis/
Here's a bit more on Houston Heimuli. Apparently, this transfer year did not meet his expectations.
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/byu-cougar...-heimulis/
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/byu-cougar...-heimulis/
11-25-2022, 09:43 AM
(11-24-2022, 09:14 AM)martyup Wrote: The most meaningless, unanticipated, and ignorable football game Stanford has prepared for in a long long time. I don't expect to see that "mid-season" "snake in the grass" crisp execution promised by Shaw.
It was actually "tiger in the weeds". Either way, hardly prophetic. More like cringe-worthy. Same as the whole program today.
Life is too short to waste on crap football.
(11-24-2022, 09:14 AM)martyup Wrote: The most meaningless, unanticipated, and ignorable football game Stanford has prepared for in a long long time. I don't expect to see that "mid-season" "snake in the grass" crisp execution promised by Shaw.
It was actually "tiger in the weeds". Either way, hardly prophetic. More like cringe-worthy. Same as the whole program today.
Life is too short to waste on crap football.
11-25-2022, 10:48 AM
(11-25-2022, 09:43 AM)gailtate Wrote:(11-24-2022, 09:14 AM)martyup Wrote: The most meaningless, unanticipated, and ignorable football game Stanford has prepared for in a long long time. I don't expect to see that "mid-season" "snake in the grass" crisp execution promised by Shaw.
It was actually "tiger in the weeds". Either way, hardly prophetic. More like cringe-worthy. Same as the whole program today.
Maybe he meant "kitten in the grass."
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Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
(11-25-2022, 09:43 AM)gailtate Wrote:(11-24-2022, 09:14 AM)martyup Wrote: The most meaningless, unanticipated, and ignorable football game Stanford has prepared for in a long long time. I don't expect to see that "mid-season" "snake in the grass" crisp execution promised by Shaw.
It was actually "tiger in the weeds". Either way, hardly prophetic. More like cringe-worthy. Same as the whole program today.
Maybe he meant "kitten in the grass."
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
(11-25-2022, 07:25 AM)Austroturf Wrote: Here's a bit more on Houston Heimuli. Apparently, this transfer year did not meet his expectations.
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/byu-cougar...-heimulis/
I chuckled when I read an article about his transfer way before the season. It said the same thing - that Heimuli, a fullback, wanted to "get more snaps" in an offensive system that DOESN'T USE FULLBACKS.
Dude...
(This post was last modified: 11-25-2022, 11:05 AM by SamuelMcF.)
(11-25-2022, 07:25 AM)Austroturf Wrote: Here's a bit more on Houston Heimuli. Apparently, this transfer year did not meet his expectations.
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/byu-cougar...-heimulis/
I chuckled when I read an article about his transfer way before the season. It said the same thing - that Heimuli, a fullback, wanted to "get more snaps" in an offensive system that DOESN'T USE FULLBACKS.
Dude...
11-27-2022, 10:41 AM
I'm proud to be the lowest scoring participant submitting predictions in all 12 games. I refused to lose my optimism despite how bad we sucked. Maybe we can get back to winning with a new coach.
Put a glide in your stride and a dip in your hip.
announced attendance was 25,094, for the 7-5 BYU Cougars.
As an independent, they have some choice of bowl games, including the Frisco Bowl, New Mexico Bowl, LendingTree Bowl, Myrtle Beach Bowl, Armed Forces Bowl, and Birmingham Bowl.
They usually travel well. Back when they played in SCU's basketball league, their attendance dwarfed SCU's tradition rival St. Mary's. Only Gonzaga had more attendance. And some of those fans found the Stanford Band's treatment of LDS to be a bit rude.
https://universe.byu.edu/2022/11/27/stan...ainst-byu/
As an independent, they have some choice of bowl games, including the Frisco Bowl, New Mexico Bowl, LendingTree Bowl, Myrtle Beach Bowl, Armed Forces Bowl, and Birmingham Bowl.
They usually travel well. Back when they played in SCU's basketball league, their attendance dwarfed SCU's tradition rival St. Mary's. Only Gonzaga had more attendance. And some of those fans found the Stanford Band's treatment of LDS to be a bit rude.
https://universe.byu.edu/2022/11/27/stan...ainst-byu/
Audaces fortuna iuvat
announced attendance was 25,094, for the 7-5 BYU Cougars.
As an independent, they have some choice of bowl games, including the Frisco Bowl, New Mexico Bowl, LendingTree Bowl, Myrtle Beach Bowl, Armed Forces Bowl, and Birmingham Bowl.
They usually travel well. Back when they played in SCU's basketball league, their attendance dwarfed SCU's tradition rival St. Mary's. Only Gonzaga had more attendance. And some of those fans found the Stanford Band's treatment of LDS to be a bit rude.
https://universe.byu.edu/2022/11/27/stan...ainst-byu/
As an independent, they have some choice of bowl games, including the Frisco Bowl, New Mexico Bowl, LendingTree Bowl, Myrtle Beach Bowl, Armed Forces Bowl, and Birmingham Bowl.
They usually travel well. Back when they played in SCU's basketball league, their attendance dwarfed SCU's tradition rival St. Mary's. Only Gonzaga had more attendance. And some of those fans found the Stanford Band's treatment of LDS to be a bit rude.
https://universe.byu.edu/2022/11/27/stan...ainst-byu/
Audaces fortuna iuvat
(11-28-2022, 04:18 PM)martyup Wrote: Hey George, can you make the prediction widget go away? It's causing me PSD (post season distress).
I sure can, but let's all offer a hearty round of congratulations to Austroturf for coming in 3rd, Langdude for coming in 2nd, and PAsportsfan who is the only winning thing this year for Stanford football.
(11-28-2022, 04:18 PM)martyup Wrote: Hey George, can you make the prediction widget go away? It's causing me PSD (post season distress).
I sure can, but let's all offer a hearty round of congratulations to Austroturf for coming in 3rd, Langdude for coming in 2nd, and PAsportsfan who is the only winning thing this year for Stanford football.
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