[terry]

Who was the first player with 30 or more HRs and 50 or more steals in a season ?

Barry Bonds? Or maybe Bobby Bonds?

[terry]

Who was the first player with 30 or more HRs and 50 or more steals in a season ?

Barry Bonds? Or maybe Bobby Bonds?

[BobK]

Not a Bonds

[BobK]

Not a Bonds

[terry]

We now have 2B (Sandberg), 3B (Boggs), SS (Larkin), C (Piazza) and OF (Bonds).  

Silver Sluggers do not differentiate between LF, CF, and RF - there are 3 in each league per season among all OFs.  If we differentiate, Bonds is the leader in LF, we already have Trout as a co-leader in CF.  There are 2 RFs with 7 each and one OF with 8 who spent some time in LF and some in RF.

Other than finishing off the OF, still looking for 1B (a current player), P (won 5 in 5 seasons, 1999-2003, pitching with 4 different NL teams), and DH (obviously an AL player as NL only added the DH recently).

Last year was the first to include a utility player among the Silver Slugger winners - so Luis Arraez & Brandon Drury are tied for the lead in that category with 1 each.

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1B Freeman or Goldschmidt?

Goldschmidt is correct with 5!  Freeman has 3.  Pretty competitive position - lots of top hitters, so hard to pile up the big number of awards as some players at other positions.

DH - Edgar Martinez?
RF - Dave Winfield?

[terry]

We now have 2B (Sandberg), 3B (Boggs), SS (Larkin), C (Piazza) and OF (Bonds).  

Silver Sluggers do not differentiate between LF, CF, and RF - there are 3 in each league per season among all OFs.  If we differentiate, Bonds is the leader in LF, we already have Trout as a co-leader in CF.  There are 2 RFs with 7 each and one OF with 8 who spent some time in LF and some in RF.

Other than finishing off the OF, still looking for 1B (a current player), P (won 5 in 5 seasons, 1999-2003, pitching with 4 different NL teams), and DH (obviously an AL player as NL only added the DH recently).

Last year was the first to include a utility player among the Silver Slugger winners - so Luis Arraez & Brandon Drury are tied for the lead in that category with 1 each.

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1B Freeman or Goldschmidt?

Goldschmidt is correct with 5!  Freeman has 3.  Pretty competitive position - lots of top hitters, so hard to pile up the big number of awards as some players at other positions.

DH - Edgar Martinez?
RF - Dave Winfield?

[PAsportsfan]

I remember seeing Jose Canseco in front of his "sporty" Jaguar with a front license plate 30-30.

Jose is my best guess.

[PAsportsfan]

I remember seeing Jose Canseco in front of his "sporty" Jaguar with a front license plate 30-30.

Jose is my best guess.

[BobK]

Not Jose Sorry

[BobK]

Not Jose Sorry

[cardcrimson]

Rickey

Dang. Looked it up, he had 28 twice, but not thirty.

[cardcrimson]

Rickey

Dang. Looked it up, he had 28 twice, but not thirty.

[BobK]

Remember it’s 30 steals and 50 HRs

The first 30-30 guy was in the 1930s or close. Something Williams if irc

[BobK]

Remember it’s 30 steals and 50 HRs

The first 30-30 guy was in the 1930s or close. Something Williams if irc

[cardcrimson]

In 1990, Bonds had 52 steals and 33 homers, and the only other player to accomplish the feat. . . .

[cardcrimson]

In 1990, Bonds had 52 steals and 33 homers, and the only other player to accomplish the feat. . . .

[qwerty49]

Remember it’s 30 steals and 50 HRs

The first 30-30 guy was in the 1930s or close.  Something Williams if irc

Hmmm....Mantle?

[qwerty49]

Remember it’s 30 steals and 50 HRs

The first 30-30 guy was in the 1930s or close.  Something Williams if irc

Hmmm....Mantle?

[BobK]

Not Mantle

[BobK]

Not Mantle

[Giants]

Not Mantle

Bob, it was Ken Williams.

An aside… Bobby Bonds was nearly the first 40-40 player.  He had 39 HRs and 43 SB’s in 1973.  If he had not been robbed of an HR at Candlestick by a Reds OF who made a spectacular catch, he would have been the first, an achievement that was accomplished by Canseco in 1988.

[Giants]

Not Mantle

Bob, it was Ken Williams.

An aside… Bobby Bonds was nearly the first 40-40 player.  He had 39 HRs and 43 SB’s in 1973.  If he had not been robbed of an HR at Candlestick by a Reds OF who made a spectacular catch, he would have been the first, an achievement that was accomplished by Canseco in 1988.

[BobK]

Cincy Reds is a hint

[BobK]

Cincy Reds is a hint

[cardcrimson]

Remember it’s 30 steals and 50 HRs

The first 30-30 guy was in the 1930s or close.  Something Williams if irc

Thought it was 30 HRs and 50 steals as mentioned a few posts earlier.

[cardcrimson]

Remember it’s 30 steals and 50 HRs

The first 30-30 guy was in the 1930s or close.  Something Williams if irc

Thought it was 30 HRs and 50 steals as mentioned a few posts earlier.

[skip75]

We now have 2B (Sandberg), 3B (Boggs), SS (Larkin), C (Piazza) and OF (Bonds).  

Silver Sluggers do not differentiate between LF, CF, and RF - there are 3 in each league per season among all OFs.  If we differentiate, Bonds is the leader in LF, we already have Trout as a co-leader in CF.  There are 2 RFs with 7 each and one OF with 8 who spent some time in LF and some in RF.

Other than finishing off the OF, still looking for 1B (a current player), P (won 5 in 5 seasons, 1999-2003, pitching with 4 different NL teams), and DH (obviously an AL player as NL only added the DH recently).

Last year was the first to include a utility player among the Silver Slugger winners - so Luis Arraez & Brandon Drury are tied for the lead in that category with 1 each.

---

1B Freeman or Goldschmidt?

Goldschmidt is correct with 5!  Freeman has 3.  Pretty competitive position - lots of top hitters, so hard to pile up the big number of awards as some players at other positions.

DH - Edgar Martinez?
RF - Dave Winfield?

No to both.  Summarizing.....
P - Not yet guessed, but not easy.  Hint given above. Teams were Astros, Mets, Rockies, & Braves. 5 Silver Sluggers
C - Piazza with 10
1B - Goldschmidt with 5
2B - Sandberg with 7
3B - Boggs with 8
SS - Larkin with 9
LF - Bonds with 12
CF - Trout with 7 (tied with a HoF player who won 7 in the AL in the 90's and played through 2010 mostly in the NL)
RF - Not guessed yet. A HoF player won 8 - 3 in the AL('99-'02) and 5 in the NL('04-'10) 
Another OF won 9 ('95-'06) as a RF for one team then as a LF for a different team.
DH - Not guessed yet. A HoF player with 7 ('04-'16)

[skip75]

We now have 2B (Sandberg), 3B (Boggs), SS (Larkin), C (Piazza) and OF (Bonds).  

Silver Sluggers do not differentiate between LF, CF, and RF - there are 3 in each league per season among all OFs.  If we differentiate, Bonds is the leader in LF, we already have Trout as a co-leader in CF.  There are 2 RFs with 7 each and one OF with 8 who spent some time in LF and some in RF.

Other than finishing off the OF, still looking for 1B (a current player), P (won 5 in 5 seasons, 1999-2003, pitching with 4 different NL teams), and DH (obviously an AL player as NL only added the DH recently).

Last year was the first to include a utility player among the Silver Slugger winners - so Luis Arraez & Brandon Drury are tied for the lead in that category with 1 each.

---

1B Freeman or Goldschmidt?

Goldschmidt is correct with 5!  Freeman has 3.  Pretty competitive position - lots of top hitters, so hard to pile up the big number of awards as some players at other positions.

DH - Edgar Martinez?
RF - Dave Winfield?

No to both.  Summarizing.....
P - Not yet guessed, but not easy.  Hint given above. Teams were Astros, Mets, Rockies, & Braves. 5 Silver Sluggers
C - Piazza with 10
1B - Goldschmidt with 5
2B - Sandberg with 7
3B - Boggs with 8
SS - Larkin with 9
LF - Bonds with 12
CF - Trout with 7 (tied with a HoF player who won 7 in the AL in the 90's and played through 2010 mostly in the NL)
RF - Not guessed yet. A HoF player won 8 - 3 in the AL('99-'02) and 5 in the NL('04-'10) 
Another OF won 9 ('95-'06) as a RF for one team then as a LF for a different team.
DH - Not guessed yet. A HoF player with 7 ('04-'16)

[lex24]

Not Mantle

Bob, it was Ken Williams.

An aside… Bobby Bonds was nearly the first 40-40 player.  He had 39 HRs and 43 SB’s in 1973.  If he had not been robbed of an HR at Candlestick by a Reds OF who made a spectacular catch, he would have been the first, an achievement that was accomplished by Canseco in 1988.

I always liked Mays comment - If I knew it was important, I’ve have done it.  

Cesar Geronimo?

[lex24]

Not Mantle

Bob, it was Ken Williams.

An aside… Bobby Bonds was nearly the first 40-40 player.  He had 39 HRs and 43 SB’s in 1973.  If he had not been robbed of an HR at Candlestick by a Reds OF who made a spectacular catch, he would have been the first, an achievement that was accomplished by Canseco in 1988.

I always liked Mays comment - If I knew it was important, I’ve have done it.  

Cesar Geronimo?

[BobK]

Not Cesar. But the great Eric Davis

I should have hinted former Giant where he played his final season

[BobK]

Not Cesar. But the great Eric Davis

I should have hinted former Giant where he played his final season

[Giants]

Not Mantle

Bob, it was Ken Williams.

An aside… Bobby Bonds was nearly the first 40-40 player.  He had 39 HRs and 43 SB’s in 1973.  If he had not been robbed of an HR at Candlestick by a Reds OF who made a spectacular catch, he would have been the first, an achievement that was accomplished by Canseco in 1988.

I always liked Mays comment - If I knew it was important, I’ve have done it.  

Cesar Geronimo?

And Mays was spot on with that comment……

[Giants]

Not Mantle

Bob, it was Ken Williams.

An aside… Bobby Bonds was nearly the first 40-40 player.  He had 39 HRs and 43 SB’s in 1973.  If he had not been robbed of an HR at Candlestick by a Reds OF who made a spectacular catch, he would have been the first, an achievement that was accomplished by Canseco in 1988.

I always liked Mays comment - If I knew it was important, I’ve have done it.  

Cesar Geronimo?

And Mays was spot on with that comment……

[lex24]

Not Cesar.  But the great Eric Davis

I should have hinted former Giant where he played his final season

Saw Davis score from first base on a thrown away pickoff.  He could fly.  And he was a great player.
BTW - my César Gerónimo reference was to the Red that robbed Bobby Bonds of 40th HR.

[lex24]

Not Cesar.  But the great Eric Davis

I should have hinted former Giant where he played his final season

Saw Davis score from first base on a thrown away pickoff.  He could fly.  And he was a great player.
BTW - my César Gerónimo reference was to the Red that robbed Bobby Bonds of 40th HR.

[Mick]

Not Mantle

Bob, it was Ken Williams.

An aside… Bobby Bonds was nearly the first 40-40 player.  He had 39 HRs and 43 SB’s in 1973.  If he had not been robbed of an HR at Candlestick by a Reds OF who made a spectacular catch, he would have been the first, an achievement that was accomplished by Canseco in 1988.

I always liked Mays comment - If I knew it was important, I’ve have done it.  

Cesar Geronimo?

And Mays was spot on with that comment……

He sure was. For instance, Mays hit four home runs in a game. Only 16 other players have done so. Can you name them?

[Mick]

Not Mantle

Bob, it was Ken Williams.

An aside… Bobby Bonds was nearly the first 40-40 player.  He had 39 HRs and 43 SB’s in 1973.  If he had not been robbed of an HR at Candlestick by a Reds OF who made a spectacular catch, he would have been the first, an achievement that was accomplished by Canseco in 1988.

I always liked Mays comment - If I knew it was important, I’ve have done it.  

Cesar Geronimo?

And Mays was spot on with that comment……

He sure was. For instance, Mays hit four home runs in a game. Only 16 other players have done so. Can you name them?

[PAsportsfan]

Mike Schmidt

Dave Kingman?

Luis Pujols?

[PAsportsfan]

Mike Schmidt

Dave Kingman?

Luis Pujols?