(10-08-2022, 04:05 PM)Giants Wrote: (10-08-2022, 12:34 PM)Mick Wrote: (10-08-2022, 12:19 PM)skip75 Wrote: Two baseball questions - since my football rooting interests, Stanford & the Denver Broncos, have made this season one to forget:
1) This season, J.T. Realmuto became the 2nd MLB catcher to hit 20 or more home runs AND steal 20 or more bases. Who was the first?
2) Also this season, future Giant Aaron Judge became the 3rd player to hit 50 or more home runs, lead MLB in slugging, AND play 75 or more games in center field. The two others both did it twice. Who are they?
Just a guess...
1) Joe Mauer
2) Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle
(10-07-2022, 05:50 AM)Mick Wrote: Prince Fielder and Cecil Fielder were father-and-son sluggers. Which one hit more regular season career home runs?
Neither. They both hit exactly 319 home runs.
(10-07-2022, 05:50 AM)Mick Wrote: And just looking for a general opinion: who was the worst, most overrated MVP in Major League Baseball history?
Zoilo Versalles, the Minneapolis shortstop, in 1965. His .273 average was the third lowest, all-time for an MVP and just 15th in the league that year. His on-base percentage was .319, 29th in the league, but led the league in triples, doubles, runs scored and strikeouts. He was 8th among AL shortstops in fielding, leading the league in errors...and double plays. Had just 12.6 WAR in his career, of it in 1965. Had negative WAR after 1965. And he wasn't the slickest fielder of his day, that was Luis Aparicio. His OPS+ was 115 in 1965 and never went above 83 after that.
I thought MVP was an acronym for Most Valuable Player. Given the Versalles was a vital cog on the Twins AL Championship team, I would suggest that he was deserving of the award.
Note: I do not think his performance warranted Player of the Year recognition.
I think everyone knows what the acronym means. Just so I understand, you believe it means Most Valuable Player to a team, and not Most Valuable Player to the league? It is, after all, an award designated by the league, not by an individual team. Steve Carlton went 27-10 in 1972 for a 59-97 Phillies team that finished last in its division. In so doing, he won 45.8% of his team's ballgames, by far the highest percentage in the modern era. And he had 12.5 WAR compared with Johnny Bench (ultimate MVP) who had 8.6 WAR. Shouldn't
he have won the MVP award? (In fairness, he finished 5th in the voting).
In fairness, Zoilo had the second highest WAR in the league that year (7.2), behind Sudden Sam McDowell, who led the league in ERA, strikeouts, walks and was just 17-11. That gave Zoilo the 31st best WAR among AL MVPs in the 56 years the award has been granted.
With that in mind, Dennis Eckersley's 2.9 WAR in 1992 was the lowest AL WAR for an MVP, and Willie Stargell's 2.3 WAR was the lowest WAR for an NL MVP.